“âWhen we had the internet bubble the first time around ⦠that was hype. This is not hype. Itâs realâ”
Thatâs JPMorgan Chase & Co. Chief Executive Jamie Dimon on artificial intelligence and its prospects for real change.
Dimon told CNBC-TV on Monday at an interview in Miami at JPMorgan Chaseâs
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Global High Yield & Leveraged Finance Conference that compared to the internet bubble of the late 1990s, AI offers more substantial prospects.
Dimon said heâs a âbig optimistâ for artificial intelligence and that itâs already being used in many ways.
âWhen we had the internet bubble the first time around, that was hype,â Dimon said. âThis is not hype â it is real.â
Asked about the economy, Dimon said financial markets are pricing in a 70% to 80% chance of a soft landing, but his view is âabout halfâ of that.
âRight now confidence is up, equity markets are up, spreads are getting closer to historical lowsâ¦the markets are high,â Dimon said.
But he added that the fiscal stimulus and the interest-rate cuts by the U.S. Federal Reserve âmay play out over multiple yearsâ and that even if the market stays out of a recession this year, the economy could still waver after that.
âIâm kind of cautious,â Dimon said.
Asked about bank exposure to office real estate and multi-family housing that caused jitters in regional banks recently, Dimon said if the economy avoids a recession, âitâll be more like whack-a-moleâ¦instead of a domino effectâ on banks with exposure to weak pockets of the business.
While data centers, health care and warehouses are performing relatively well in the commercial real estate sector, office exposure could be challenging for some banks, he said.
But any rising defaults will be a part of normalization process for banks after a sustained period of artificially low interest rates, he said.
âThere are things ahead that are concerning,â Dimon said. âIf we donât have a recession most peopleâ¦will be able to muddle through.â
Some banks âwill have a much bigger real-estate problem than othersâ if thereâs a recession, he said.
Asked about any potential threat posed by Capital One Financial Corp.âs
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proposed $35 billion acquisition of Discover Financial Services
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Dimon said the two companies should be allowed to combine and that the deal will not hurt competition.
Dimon also reiterated opposition to the proposed Basel III endgame capital requirements for banks and said the biggest risk to the financial system is cyber crime, not capital levels.
While he said he supports the Dodd-Frank legislation that laid out a path for increased banking regulation, the latest capital requirement proposal âhas gone way beyond that,â he said.
Regulators did not fully consider whether proposed new capital rules would impact more routine transactions, such as farmers buying hedges to protect against swings in crop prices, he said.
Asked about JPMorgan Chaseâs commitment to its branch network, Dimon said a million people a day walk into a branch.
âThey are more like advice centers,â he said. âYou have mortgage-loan officers, small-business consultants, wealth advisers â it enhances our business in all kinds of ways.â
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